I think reasonable people can disagree. by Billy Goat (2.00 / 0) #15 Tue May 13, 2008 at 11:23:43 AM EST
But I also think reasonable people can sometimes run into delusional people who refuse to see that the standards they're holding their own candidate too are significantly lower than the standards they apply to other candidates, especially when it comes to race and gender politics.

The last time you attacked Clinton, you demanded proof that Obama misrepresented her plan. I gave you an ad Obama approved that took criticism of McCain's plan and passed it off as valid criticism of Clinton's plan.

You failed to respond.

Now you claim Clinton is disgusting in her appeals to identity politics.

I've presented you with two appeals by Obama to the sort of identity politics that you find so objectionable when Clinton does them.

You've denied that the first instance is an example (though you seem to be alone on this), but you don't mention Obama's explicit claim to be able to deliver the black vote for Dems.

Again, you've failed to show why Obama's behavior is acceptable, but Clinton's is beyond the pale.

Reasonable people can disagree. But that's not what's happening here. You're ignoring facts, spinning Clinton's comments, and whitewashing - if you'll forgive the unintentional pun - Obama's own campaign behavior.

What, exactly, is reasonable about your position?

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Because I'm tired of going around in circles by lm (2.00 / 0) #16 Tue May 13, 2008 at 11:38:19 AM EST
``I've presented you with two appeals ''

Right, and I've responded as to why I see a difference between the appeals are being made. You don't see those differences. That's fine. I'm not attacking you for not seeing the same thing I do.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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